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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 18, 2005 20:18:53 GMT -5
For my own part, I have no problem with people voicing their opinions (positive or negative). However, when they put down people who do not share their opinions, then I have a problem with it. Remember, if you wish the right to express yourself, you must accept that others may not agree/like your opinions.
A big problem I see here is that people aren't really willing to listen and discuss rationally the pros vs cons of a video game.
Most of what people on-line call 'voicing opinions' has to do with making defining statements, such as: "This game sucks" or "This game rules". Such a black and white attitude leads to conflicts, because most people see that as an attack on their own opinions.
It's really bad when the game isn't even out yet and noone really knows what it actually is like.
Saying that Shadow the Hedgehog is 'rubbish' is way too definite a statement for a game not yet released. All we have seen have been promo shots and demo reels and none of us, I'd wager, have actually played it.
Right now we should be discussing the possible game play aspects of the game and how they might be used, giving our opinions on weather we like them or not and (most importantly) _why_.
Why is something all too often left out of these sorts of things.
People are way too read to say "This is all trash" or "This is the greatest game EVAR!!!" and not very ready to back up their opinions with anything more than bickering and blanket statements.
The reason positive messages are more readily accepted is that they tend to be less offensive to others opinions. Negativity and hatefulness makes others angry as well and causes more negative reactions.
Note: I am not pointing fingers at any one person, we are all guilty of this at some point. This is just how I feel about this whole problem in general.
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 18, 2005 19:31:07 GMT -5
How do you know it's rubbish? You haven't played it.
How does anyone know how good it is? Has anyone here played it? Is it even released yet? No and no.
I'm just keeping an open mind and a positive attitude. I prefer that. Much more love, much less hate. And at the end of the day I feel good and am ready to face the next day with a smile rather than a frown.
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 18, 2005 9:28:46 GMT -5
Well I meant more from my point of view of Shuffle. I suppose I could have been more clear on that.
I'm not overly fond of board games, although I do like Monopoly. And the idea of a Sonic-based board game sort of contradicted itself to my mind. I've always felt the essence of Sonic is in speed and the board game motif just seemed to be the opposite.
But I may have warmed to it later, if I had been given a chance. I can't recall if it was stolen with my first Dreamcast or the second.. but when I bought the third one, I was more concerned with getting SA1 and 2 than Shuffle.
What little I had had the chance to play was pretty frustrating with (as Blaze said) the AI. If I had more friends that would play Sonic rather than make fun of him, I would have opted for the multi-player mode, which I think would have solved much of the AI trouble.... actually I can't even remember if there was a multi-player mode.. there must have been.. *scratches head*
Anyway, more on-topic:
This isn't the first time Sonic characters have driven rather than ran, assuming that the motorcycle isn't there for just looks (and a really sad pun). Sonic Drift and it's sequel featured not only the side characters but Sonic himself in race cars. And of course we all remember Twinkle Park.
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 17, 2005 22:02:16 GMT -5
y'know.. I'm actually starting to warm to this game.
At first I was sort of shocked, but now that the surprise has worn off, I can see where it might be good. It's Shadow, and not Sonic, so they can take a few liberties and not hurt the franchise too much. And it kinda works for him. He (the character) has issues.. or should if they're seriously trying to make his character evolve.
And even if it's just mediocre, that's not really 'bad'.
Meh.. if there's one thing I've learned from watching gamers bicker it's that if it gets a lot of put-downs before anyone has played it, there is a good chance I'll like it.
Except for Sonic Shuffle.. that was obvious from the beginning.
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 17, 2005 21:49:44 GMT -5
I went ahead and watched the movie today. It was great! Did anyone else think, "Edward Scissorhands!" when you saw this? mwehehehehe, you also huh? I wonder if they meant to do that. Anyway.. I saw it last night and wow.. just wow. I have always loved Tim Burton's work and I like Depp as an actor, and with Danny Elfman doing the music.. this was a dream come true! I'm going to definatly be buying the soundtrack to this one. Ironically, even though this is one of my favorite movies, I've never read the book. Being the bookworm I am, you would image I would have by now. Hmm.. To sum it all up: It was TEH ROCK!
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 15, 2005 18:34:17 GMT -5
'allo!
Welcome to the Moogle Cavern! Except.. this isn't it..
Well it is right now.. but soon it won't be.
Well that is to say that is will still be the Moogle Cavern, but this won't be anymore.
What I mean to say is that we will be changing locations but taking the name with us. Yeah.
Anyway.
Welcome to our abode and feel free to have fun, but if you know what's good for you (and I'm sure you do) you won't try to break into Kulock's 'special closet'. Some of us did that a while back and.. well.. it's bad.. let's just leave it at that.
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 12, 2005 17:07:32 GMT -5
'allo! Welcome back!
I don't have the foggiest clue who you are, but hey, I've a lousy memory anyway, so chances are I wouldn't know you anyway XD
Since you're returning, you already know where everything is, but I should warn you, they've secretly switched the MC Coffie with Folgers Crystals, and they're going to watch.
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 10, 2005 22:22:55 GMT -5
wow..
actual scientific study into video games! Without any bias/over simplified conclusions.
I am much impressed!
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 9, 2005 19:56:29 GMT -5
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 7, 2005 13:59:19 GMT -5
well damn..
warned?
"hey, btw, just to let you know, I'm going to blow you up at some point in the future, ok?"
"um.. k.."
"just thought I'd let ya know.. bye" BOOM
Yeah.. that makes a difference...
anyway.. what everyone else basically said: That sucks.
But why Brittan? I thought the Al-Qaeda's (if it was them) little beef was mostly with the US... stupid terrorists...
Brings back to mind that quote, I think it was from The Onion, about September 11, 2001:
God: "What part of Thou shalt not kill did you not understand!?"
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 3, 2005 23:58:39 GMT -5
in one minuet, it will be the fourth..
anyway...
Happy Fourth of July and all that stuff!!
...
now lets go set something on fire.. XD
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 14, 2005 21:45:41 GMT -5
F451 was not only about censorship, but the control of information and the dumbing down of the human intellect.
People were so unaware of what was going on that they didn't even know that their country was in a war, and they were on the loosing side.
And they had become comfortable that way. They had accepted that life of unawareness. It was comfortable for them, never having to stretch their minds beyond just what their televisions, radios and government issued pamphlets told them. Never having to think beyond the very surface value of anything they experienced.
But I digress. It was rather rash, but as I said, I was angry, and I apologize.
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 14, 2005 20:53:38 GMT -5
Y'know.. this whole argument is pointless.
It's clear I'm operating on a completely different set of requirements and expectations than most of the rest of you. We could probably discuss this till hell freezes over, pigs fly and politicians are honest.
So what's say we just forget it, eh?
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 14, 2005 17:30:59 GMT -5
So anyway, I just saw this movie and it was good for what it is (and to remind Keith to what it really is) a summer-blockbuster popcorn disaster movie. Though I got some Jurassic Park vibes to it for some reason(hey another Spielberg summer blockbuster this isn't faithful to the book). See, and that exactly is my point. I went expecting to see War of the Worlds, not a 'summer-blockbuster popcorn disaster movie'. Silly me for reading the title and expecting it to be what it said it was, I guess
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 13, 2005 17:13:48 GMT -5
Keith sure does have a lot of opinion for a movie he barely saw. If you can't stand a movie where people act realistically in armageddon situations, go watch... well, Armageddon. Or stick to G-ratings, where character development is more your level. It's different from the book, is it? Did you ever consider that maybe that's because it's not the book? Realism isn't the same thing as pessimism. People don't have to act like morons and be dysfunctional to be realistic or believable. Ok, so it's not the book. Would that have made it ok for Peter Jackson to just do whatever he wanted with Lord of the Rings? Of course not, Tolkiens huge following would have had his head on a silver platter. The only difference is that H.G. Wells doesn't have such a huge following and War of the Worlds doesn't have a cult status. Does that make it ok for them to do what they did? I would say no. But then I am a book lover, so yeah... Sure I saw only half an hour, but if, in that half a hour a movie can drive a major fan of the story into such a rage that they storm out of the theater, something is very wrong. I wanted to like what I was seeing, believe me. I was excited. Really. Very excited. I had been waiting for War of the Worlds since before the movie was even announced. That said, I do feel I should apologize. I let my anger get the best of me before. Since I've calmed down, I'm not so vehemently against it.. but I still feel that it was a very bad choice on their part and don't regret my choice to leave. If you like that kind of movie, I suppose it's good. And, as I said, if it were any other title, I prolly wouldn't have been so offended.
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 12, 2005 17:01:51 GMT -5
Well if it was just a movie, I wouldn't give it two blinks, but it isn't just a movie. It's War of the Worlds.
The book was published in 1898. It's a 107 year old story. And for a story to remain in print for a hundred and seven years, it has to be good.
Yet the people making this movie clearly didn't care. They saw the War of the Worlds title and it was just some money to them.
I feel like Lord of the Rings really raised the bar when it comes to movie-book conversions.
Sure, War of the Worlds isn't Lord of the Rings, but the basic point is the same. Lord of the Rings was given great respect and an intelligent and well thought treatment. The writers were very careful to keep the same spirit despite the many changes.
In War of the Worlds, quite the opposite has happened. It's clear the writers weren't careful, or respectful when making their version. The last thing in their minds was the spirit of the book. And in doing so, they insulted every one of us who have read and loved the book for so many years. I felt like they had just given all us H.G. Wells fans (not to mention the author himself) the proverbial finger.
I suppose there are some that would tell me to not take it so seriously or that I shouldn't expect so much from the movie industry.
I have just one thing to say to that: Fahrenheit 451
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 10, 2005 16:01:37 GMT -5
Ironically, now I regret not seeing the whole thing, mostly because I would like to write a parody of it.
Although I can easily sum up the first half-hour that I saw thusly:
Teh WAR OF THE WORLDS OMG! SPIELBERG!
Narrator: I'm using the introduction of the book so that at least SOME of the writing in this movie seems somewhat intelligent. But don't get used to it. After I'm done, you'll be watching 'As the World Turns'... with aliens.
Dad: Hello everyone, I'm your hero. I'm generally a jerk and irresponsible, yet I have a fairly good job and for some reason my wife, who obviously left me, is dumping my two idiot children on me, while they go on vacation. Let’s meet them.
Son: I hate you, Dad I hate you, Mom. I hate you, Sister, I hate you EVERYONE!! ARRRGH I'M SO FULL OF ANGST!! I think I'll go pout.
Daughter: Ewwww, is that CHEESE? Don't you know tofu is so much better for you? Where's my goose down pillow? I can't sleep without my special blankly! Dad, you're stupid!
Mother: Oh God help me.. why am I here.. what the hell have I done to deserve this...
Husband: Now now dear, he may be a horrible wretch who cannot even take care of himself, but the children are obviously retarded, so it's ok.
Mother: I'm not talking about that, I mean this movie. How did I wind up in this? I want to talk to my agent.
*later in the house*
Dad: C’mon moron, let’s go play some catch and trade insults.
Son: Sounds stupid, I dunnwanna.
Dad: Do it or I’ll talk to Spielberg and make sure you star in the sequel.
Son: ... fine
Daughter: I’m going to tag along so I can watch you two and feel superior.
Son: Not like that means a whole lot anyway.
TV: Stuff, stuff, plot, yadda, yadda, not explaining what an EMP is or why it should knock out power, because if you knew you would see straight through the plot holes, yadda yadda, stuff. I think that covers it. I hope you people in the audience were paying attention.
Audience: *blank stare of disbelief*
TV: whatever *tosses script*
*outside*
Dad: *toss* Son, you’re an idiot, do your homework.
Son: *toss harder* Shut up, I’m angsty.
Dad: *toss harderer* Yeah, and retarded, but I’m a jerk and totally useless.
Son: OW *TOSS REALLY REALLY HARD* Jerk.
Dad: *TOSS EVER REALLY REALLY HARDER* Yup.
Son: whatever.. I’m going to steal your car and stuff.. ‘cause I’m angsty.. or something...
Window: CRASH!
Dad: Hey, I’m the jerk, not you!
Daughter: Great, the world is going to be blown up and I’m stuck with Tweedledee and Tweedledum..
Audience: You haven’t much room to talk, little miss Herbal Life.
*later, storm comes in*
Dad: Hey, Daughter.. whatever your name is, come look at the cool freaky weather!
Daughter: Um.. dad.. this is scary, I wanna go inside.
Dad: Pfft, it’s not scary, why it’s perfectly ok, nothing t-
Lighting: BOOM, BOOM, BOOM, BOOOOOOOM
Dad: ok, in we go.
*inside*
Daughter: OMG OMG OMG OMG!! SCARY!!
Dad: Hmm.. my child is obviously upset.. I think I’ll go outside and see what’s going on instead of trying to make her feel better.
*outside*
Son: OMG OMG OMG OMG!! The car just stopped and stuff and I didn’t do it, not my fault, I swear.
Dad: Where did it.. wait.. since when do you give a crap?
Son: I don’t, won’t, and never will.. but I thought you’d, like kill me, so I thought I’d pretend.
Dad: ah. Go watch your whiny sister, while I go wander off.
Son: Whatever.
*Dad leaves for where the lightning struck*
Guy: Hey Jerk!
Dad: yeah?
Guy: This car won’t work! How do I fix it?
Dad: Because I am a brilliant mechanic, the answer is the framistan is transphoozald. Fix it.
Guy: Ok, but you’re still a jerk.
Dad: yup.
*ground zero*
Dad: Hey you two guys I don’t know, follow me and act like my friends.
Two guys: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!
Dad: ok, you can stop now.
Ground: CRUNCH, ROTATE, BOOM!
Dad: wow, that was scary... I think I’ll stay and watch more.
Alien: BOOM! Hi there, I’m here to kill you all. ZAP!
Person: FOOM!
Persons clothes: WEEE!! I’m FREE! FREE AT LAST!
Audience: Wait... if the ray can instantly turn someone to ash, knock down whole buildings, why the hell are these peoples clothes flying gleefully off into the sky??
Spielberg: Shhh, just watch the pretty effects! And for heavens sake, stop thinking, it just ruins the movie!
Dad: hmm.. people are being instantly turned to dust.. I guess I should sort of jog home.. or something.
*back home*
Son: What the hell’s going on, jerk?
Daughter: OMG! Scary!
Dad: OMG! I’m covered in... AUGH! *wash wash wash*
Son: Hey, I want to know what’s going on!
Daughter: OMG OMG OMG me too OMG OMG OMG!
Dad: We’re going away.. get.. stuff.. do something you idiots! Don’t you know what’s going on!?
Son: No, we weren’t with you, jerk.
Dad: To bad, now move it!
*outside*
Dad: AHA! The car I conveniently knew how to fix! I’ll steal it.
Guy: Hey, get out of there, this isn’t your car!
Dad: Get in, Mr. Guy.
Guy: No, now get out! This isn’t your car.
Daughter: OMG OMG OMG!!!
Son: What’s going on!?
Dad: Shut up ALL OF YOU!
*closes door and drives off*
Guy: HEY! COME BACK HERE!
Alien: ZAP!
Guy: FOOM!
Clothes: WEEEE!
Daughter: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!
Son: What’s going on!? Why won’t you tell us what’s going on?
Dad: Shut up shut up shut upshutupshutup!
Audience: ...
*later along the road*
Son: OK, so we’re away from the city. Tell us what’s going on, jerk.
Dad: Shut up. I’m not going to tell you ‘cause it would bore the audience.
Audience: Don’t worry, if it will shut at least one of you and your horrible whining, we’d be eternally grateful.
Dad: er. well...
Daughter: I gotta pee.
Dad: WHEW! Saved! *stops* ok, go out and pee, but stay where I can see you!
Daughter: Even though I saw that Guy get vaporized, I’m going to wander as far as I can from my dad. *wanders*
Bodies in the river: See, your dad was right.
Dad: GOTCHA!
Daughter: OMG OMG OMG OMG OM.. you.. you.. @$#% JERK!! Why did you sneak up on me like that?
Dad: ... um..
Son: Hey!! Soldiers! Wait up!
Dad: Ah! Another convenient distraction! *drags daughter along* Hey, stupid! Don’t go with them, you’ll be killed!
Son: Me? Hell no, I want all of us to go!
Dad: In that case, we’d all die. We shouldn't go back!
Son: ... I HATE YOU! YOU ONLY CARE ABOUT YOURSELF!!!
Audience: ...
*later, in the house*
Daughter: OH BOY! Mommy and daddy! hey.. they’re not here.
Dad: Duh, they went on vacation. Didn’t they tell you?
Son: Nah, they don’t tell us jack, jerk.
Daughter: Actually, they do, but we ignore them.
Dad: ... ok, time to eat. Who wants runny peanut butter!
Daughter: I’m allergic to peanuts and I’m not hungry.
Son: Not hungry either.
Dad: DAMMIT! When I say it’s time to eat, I mean EAT! *sighs* ok, stay calm.. gotta stay calm...
Son: What’s goin--
Dad: SHUT UP!!
*in basement*
Daughter: We’re going to sleep down here? Eewwww.. I want my bed.. I have back problems!
Dad: OK, that’s it. You saw a guy vaporized in front of your face, why the hell aren’t you taking it into your skull that we’re in danger?!
Son: Maybe because you won’t tell us anything!
Dad: Shut up... wait.. what was that? GET INTO THE LOWER-BASEMENT!
*all run*
House: BOOM!
Dad: Ok, we stay here.
*next day*
Dad: Hey TV morons, what news?
TV Girl: Hello, I’m a ludicrous character, possibly an attempt at humor, except that the humor is in such bad taste that I come off and stupid and stereotypical. Although that doesn’t exactly make me any different from the rest of the cast. I also have some info, although I shouldn't because of the EMP.
Dad: EMP?
TV Girl: Sorry, can’t explain it. Might make the audience think.
Dad: Well we can’t have that.
TV Girl: Ok, I’m said all my lines, now I’m going to vanish into the plot holes. *POOF*
*son and daughter emerge from house*
Both: wha.. what’s going on?
Dad: Shut up. We’re going.
*later on, son is driving*
Son: um.. Dad...
Crowd: ARRGH!! WE’RE A MOB!! ARRGH!
Dad: great work moron... ok, give me the wheel so I can wreck the car.
Crowd: ARRGH!! WE’RE A MOB!! ARRGH!!
Girl: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!
Son: What’s going on?
Dad: SHUT UP! *CRASH*
Crowd: ARRGH!! WE’RE A MOB!! ARRGH!!
*the two guys are pulled from the car*
Daughter: OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!
Crowd: ARRGH!! WE’RE A MOB!! ARRGH!!
Dad: EVERYBODY BACK OR I’LL SHOOT!
Guy in Crowd: ARRGH!! WE’RE A -- I mean.. shoot and I’ll shoot.
Dad: Fine *drops gun* just let me get my daughter.
Guy in Crowd: ARRGH.. I mean ok.
*Dad grabs daughter and runs into a cafe*
Dad: omg...
Son: omg...
Daughter: omg omg omg omg omg..
Crowd: ARRGH!! WE’RE A MOB!! ARRGH!!
Audience: F*CK this... *leaves*
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 6, 2005 17:43:32 GMT -5
I prefer not to think of it that way.
That's not what I go to see in a movie.
If I want to see people acting stupid, I can go outside my door and watch it for free. And if that's not enough, I could get on-line and have more idiots than even exist on the world.
But my hate for the movie runs deeper than that.
They destroyed the work of H. G. Wells, showing it no respect what so ever.
Instead of a well written Sci-Fi story, we get a badly written, shoddily directed and poorly acted Sci-fi/horror/suspense/thriller can of garbage made for a society so deadened by shows like Survivor that they'll watch whatever tripe is handed to them.
They could have dropped the War of the Worlds title and noone would have noticed. It's become just another sci-fi thriller with no unique or defining attributes besides being utterly hateful in all respects.
Basically they raped the book, stole the title and slapped it on Generic Alien Invasion Movie #249 so they could make some fast and easy dough. Toss in some tasteless and infuriating 'family issues', slap Spielberg's name on it and there ya go, instant blockbuster in the Black Years of American movie making.
*fume fume fume*
...
at least the special effects were good.
whatever...
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 5, 2005 20:52:12 GMT -5
except, you see, he's right.. it's lousy.
In all my life, I have only ever walked out on one other movie, and that was Home Alone.. and I even got past the first hour of Home Alone.
War of the Worlds: 30min.
I walked out after thirty minutes.
Why?
Angst... the horrible horrible angst of a divorced neurotic dad and his two neurotic children arguing about their petty little neurotic problems while the world gets blown up around them.
I cannot believe it.. I just cannot...
I left the theater and I was PHYSICALLY ILL. I was torn between either crying or grabbing the nearest brick and throwing it through the nearest car window.
However, if you like horrible horror movies with retarded characters, where you don't mind shouting "Don't do that you moron!" And "Shut up and RUN!" or "STOP your arguing already!
I.. I... oh.. just.. *ends post*
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Post by Keith T. Hemari on Jul 3, 2005 23:50:12 GMT -5
*adds the movie to his to-do list*
I was very worried about this movie.. but if Steven Spielberg directed, it should at least have _some_ merit.
I'm a big fan of the original novel as well as H.G. Wells' writing in general.
I've heard a radio broadcast (the Orson Wells version and a British musical production) and seen the original movie.. and from what I hear on this board, I think I'll like this new movie.
Thanks guys for not hating it utterly XD
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