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Post by Seph Hexen on Jun 19, 2005 8:22:21 GMT -5
FUCKING PIRATE RAP
Really, it had to be done eventually.
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Post by GagaMan on Jun 19, 2005 8:40:29 GMT -5
This reminds me of a flash comic someone I watch a Devart made:
"Samurai Jack has been replaced by....an anime dub!" "I weep for my brother who has fallen into a puddle of ketchup!"
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Post by A Notebook on Jun 19, 2005 9:45:35 GMT -5
I'm with Seph. Like I said before, I can't wait for 4Kids to go bankrupt or something just so everyone can stop whining.
And just to make things worse, this current state of affairs for anime and Sonic reflects the state of affairs between the current constant arguments between the left and right spectrum of American politics and religion, which gives me more reason not to care.
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Post by Sabator on Jun 19, 2005 10:21:09 GMT -5
As far as I know, One Piece is airing on Toonami in the UK. Since Toonami hit the shits a long time ago, I don't subscribe to it anymore. How's the UK dub? Or is it the same 4kids stuff as the US one?
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Post by Merry Smindmas on Jun 19, 2005 10:27:09 GMT -5
I saw it once at a mate's - must be the 4Kids one as there was that hilariously wrong rap in it
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Post by Jolly Joes on Jun 19, 2005 10:28:24 GMT -5
4Kids have the rights to the English version of One Piece, therefore their dub will be airing in all mainly English-speaking countries.
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Post by Sz on Jun 19, 2005 11:15:25 GMT -5
The Pirate Rap is great and amusing. If your "task" is to get rid of it, fuck that. Well, not that I care, as the comic kicks the cartoon's ass, but YO HO HO HE TOOK A BITE OF GUM GUM, man. OH NEIL. WHAT WILL HE SAY NEXT? ;> PS: I agree. And just to make things worse, this current state of affairs for anime and Sonic reflects the state of affairs between the current constant arguments between the left and right spectrum of American politics and religion, which gives me more reason not to care. Not again... Excuse me, but: WRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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Post by Neo on Jun 19, 2005 12:18:11 GMT -5
WRRRRRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY YOU FAIL IT. One W. One R. 20 Ys. WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY. Anyway, blah blah, 4kids sucks, I hope they go outta business, blahblahblah.
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Post by Andrusi on Jun 19, 2005 14:15:13 GMT -5
Incidentally, does anyone know the English region ratings for One Piece are? I mean it's easy to say it's inferior to the Japanese version, but that misses out on whether the dub, on its own, is a good program. At last! Somebody else who is capable of thinking of a dub in terms other than just how it compares to the original version! We should go find some like-minded girls and start a colony.
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Post by Tenniru on Jun 19, 2005 14:21:16 GMT -5
If you haven't seen/heard of/care for the original Japanese version, the English version isn't that bad except for the terrible pirate accents. "AVAST YE HARDEY MATEY HO HO HO SHIVER ME TIMBERS MATEY SCURRRVEY DOG!"
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Post by Sz on Jun 19, 2005 15:21:35 GMT -5
Neo: YOU AND YOUR TECHNICALITIES CAN GO FORM A COMMUNE.
...anyway, despite what Andy is hinting at, most of us (I would like to think!) don't have a vendetta about dubbed anime, and typically judge it on one crucial detail: Does it suck? Obviously the original material factors in sometimes, and having more background information on the series makes a person more likely to find flaws in that series (dialog, etc... For instance, I was stupid and read the book version of RotK right before I watched the movie in theaters. Bad idea.), but other than that there really isn't any preordained bias from me.
The OP dub is terrible. The voices are outright horrific, the script is atrocious, and the edits ... are unacceptable, to make things worse. LASER CANNONS!
There have been plenty of good dubbed shows shown on American TV (chiefly CN). OP is ... uh, not one of them.
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Post by Jolly Joes on Jun 19, 2005 15:36:53 GMT -5
For the record, I've seen the OP dubbed anime before the original Japanese version and I thought it was awful.
Also, what Sz just said about dubbed anime in general.
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Post by Sabator on Jun 19, 2005 16:25:56 GMT -5
I prefer dubbed anime in general, but I usually can't watch past an awful dub. However, I seem to possess an all-to-rare ability to watch an average dub and prefer it to a sub, mainly because I like to watch my anime, not read it. The Eva dub wasn't great, but it was watchable (shut up neil) so I still prefer it to reading susbtitles on the screen and trying to see the action at the same time. I'm a fast reader, and I usually don't miss anything important, but I just don't like staring at the bottom of the screen.
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Post by PC0 on Jun 19, 2005 19:39:33 GMT -5
I don't understand what's up with people having a problem with reading. "Watch, not read it", wtf is that all about? Reading subtitles is hilariously easy, unless you are a horrible 2nd grade level reader or some crap, you shouldn't be having trouble. Seph: You're a jack ass. You weren't there, you don't know. I remember when Sonique was gathering support for the dvds and I doubt that there would of been such a release if not for all the letters and mail sent to DiC and their associates requesting the media. Sure, she didn't do it by herself, she had a lot of help. But, she did have a part in it, so quit trying to attack someone simply because they're showing that they have the balls to try against seemingly overwhelming odds. You should respect someone for having the courage and dedication to work for selflessly for something like this, but instead, you only prove that you're a total asshole, trying to bring down someone's dreams and accomplishments, because it makes you feel better about the minimal accomplishments of yourself. There's a name for that, it's called a bully. Go crawl back under your rock and leave people who haven't done a damn thing to you alone. Jerkwad. Teflon: You're just a total idiot. You must really BE made of Teflon, because apparently information slides off of your intellect like eggs off a well greased frying pan. Stop trying to be Mr. Surperior, because you're ignorance combined with your egotistical banter give me a headache. Congratulations, you're an asshole Here have a ribbon. To every other pessimists out there claiming this is stupid: Why do you have to criticize someone trying to do something for the population as a whole? She enjoys One Piece and finds it to be a wonderful work of art, so she tries to share it with those around her in the same form that brought her so much happiness in the first place. The 4Kids dub does not possess the "magic" of the original work that inspired those original feelings of joy and she feels sorry for OTHER people who can't see the true qualities of the series. She's doing this for people other than herself, yet you criticize her. She has the subs and if she was a selfish f***, like some of the people here, she wouldn't care. Yet instead, she's trying to dedicate her time, effort and probably money to helping this art come to the people in true form. All in all, I'm disappointed in some of the mooglers in this thread. I thought this community was full of people who were above assinine attacks on their fellow mooglers, simply to make themselves seem big and surperior. I thought we were people who supported bold, innovative movements and ideas. I thought we were a collection of intellectuals. And while most of the people here are members of the moogle cavern I remember, a few of you are mere pathetic shadows of the ideals and personality that this community was built on. Stop acting so malicious, because if this keeps up, our beloved moogle cavern is heading to sad times and I don't want to see or allow it to go down like that.
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Post by Sz on Jun 19, 2005 19:58:08 GMT -5
God forbid someone disagrees with you, PC0.
If you guys want to crusade to get 4Kids to change their ways of butchering anime, go for it. I doubt you'll succeed, but you're welcome to try. I have no problem with that. I won't support it, as I feel like even that is a futile effort, but I can respect the dedication.
At the same time, claiming something like "We're going to save One Piece!" is something I'd expect a 12 year old idealist to be spouting. That's not the way the world works. Even if any changes happen, the vast majority of OP will already be, if I may say so, ruined. Even if you guys would be successful, the 4Kids One Piece dub, and the show in english for the indefinite future -- is not going to be saved.
This... claiming something absurd like "We're going to save One Piece," and then following up everything (as has now been done) with "...if you disagree with anything we've said you're obviously against us and stupid! We're doing it for the common good!" ... really really stupid. Many things are for the "common good", and that doesn't mean they're good ideas. (I hate to do this... Just accept it and move on! No debating the following statement! ;>) The Iraq war was probably for the common good, after all, a murderer and semi-madman is out of power now. However, that clearly, uh, wasn't much of a great idea.
Finally, PC0 ... don't even try to act that it was all love and kittens during the old FUS days. There were a ton of people alienated and a lot of strife in the fandom from that crusade (more specifically from the way it was handled). I understand Seph's annoyance, although I personally never let it effect my enjoyment from SatAM itself.
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Post by sonique on Jun 19, 2005 21:04:53 GMT -5
The old FUS days? ... uhm anyway I'm going to say this one last time: The reason I said "I'm going to save One Piece" is because that's how Luffy would say it. Luffy is the main character in One Piece so Im just saying it how he would say it He doesn't say "This is my dream to become the pirate king!" or anything like that. He says "I'm going to be the Pirate King!" So that's what I was doing, please try and take that into concideration ^_^ EDIT: and the reason I came here and posted this was because ... I thought it had a heavey One Piece fandom but I may have been wrong =/
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Post by Seph on Jun 19, 2005 21:07:54 GMT -5
That's been established.
If I recall, I've been with this community since 1999. So, I was there, and I do know. Next!
Show me an official press release of this please, and I will believe you and stand corrected. Next!
And they're spreading misinformation and counterproductivity along the subject by saying not to throw money at the very thing she wants, while also boosting her own ego. Nothing is selfless-- there's no such thing as a hero. Next!
Despite saying I wanted the same thing, right? Next!
And when did I flaunt any of my accomplishments? I could if you want, but I don't recall anything about me boosting up what accomplishments I do have. Thanks for putting words in my mouth. Next!
I haven't done a thing to you, but Sonique. And if you say 'But she's my friend, and I'm defending her!,' I'll point to an e-mail to a certain admin of a site that used to be about Sonic Underground from Sonique. I happen to be great friends, very close, with Cyan, and when I heard that she did such a thing, it really outraged me. Maybe a few years since, but I'm still in some way defending a friend.
Wow, a counter to everything you said, which was mostly you just sobbing like a little baby. You know, you really do make yourself look like an asshole with the way you're fanatical about every god damn thing you take an interest in. Go fuck some 1-cent whores like you always brag about, please.
Sz: Once again, you say it like it is. Good job. You could learn a thing or two from him, PC0-- because the way Sonique and her gang crusaded with SatAM, it was truly a bloody one, and many people (like me) were alienated.
EDIT: Had started typing before Sonique posted. In addition, some spelling corrections.
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Post by sonique on Jun 19, 2005 21:17:26 GMT -5
Wait... what did I do to Cyan?... I honestly don't remember doing anything to him. I bashed sonic Underground but not the people who liked it. I was also friends with the girl who had sonicunderground.net and personally I think it's a shame that site never recovered.
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Post by Seph on Jun 19, 2005 21:20:22 GMT -5
You sent him a bashing e-mail when he was running the Underground Zone, belitting the show and him for liking it in one compact little message.
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Post by sonique on Jun 19, 2005 21:23:18 GMT -5
I did no such thing unless he attacked me first. Please post the email I supposedly sent so I can correct the story. Some of my best friends are SU fans, even some on FUS and I don't mind at all. I still don't like the show, but I never outright attacked someone in an email unless they did it to me first.
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