drak
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Post by drak on Aug 3, 2006 18:42:01 GMT -5
So, yeah. My girlfriend bought Christmas NiGHTS on eBay recently, and it arrived, only for her to discover it was the PAL version. :[ So, I am wondering... is it possible to play it on a US saturn somehow? Like, with a boot disc or something? Does it require any modding of the system? :< AND OF COURSE, IF IT IS NOT CROSSING ANY LINES TO ASK, anyone know where I could get a bootdisc ISO if that is indeed the way to go?
thanks paaals.
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Post by J on Aug 3, 2006 18:49:12 GMT -5
Umm... if it's anything like playing JP games on the US Saturn, you'd need to use a cheat device like a Pro Action Replay to load it up. If not, I wouldn't know what to do...
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SpadeRunner Cin
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Post by SpadeRunner Cin on Aug 3, 2006 19:06:24 GMT -5
You have to mess around with the lid, in order to make it think its closed when its infact open, then you have to go through the horror of swapping the disks just after its read the protection information off a US disk, evil annoying process. If someone else doesn't beat me to it I'll try and find a guide tommorow.
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Oni Lukos
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Post by Oni Lukos on Aug 3, 2006 19:19:22 GMT -5
Try using a paperclip. Or something. There should be a mechanism somewhere. I forget where it is.
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Post by BlazeHedgehod on Aug 3, 2006 19:21:35 GMT -5
...Also, even if you get the swap trick to work (which can also damage your Saturn, be careful), most PAL games (from back then, at least) display at 50hz. American TVs are 60hz. And PAL-to-NTSC converters are expeeeensive.
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Post by Optimus Prime on Aug 3, 2006 20:23:25 GMT -5
DO NOT LISTEN TO THESE GUYS. Really.
Simply find an ST Key or one of the old purple Gamesharks with the cybernetic shark. ST is straightfoward enough, but when loading the GS hold X Y and Z, then press start. It'll load up, no fuss, no muss, no breaking anything.
Trust me, I totally know what I'm talking about. The PAL games I have all play fine on an unmodified US Saturn with a Gameshark. The ST Key works for the few the GS hates, like Panzer Dragoon Saga.
Like I said, ignore these guys =D.
Edit: specifics for different consoles are in the articles of my website. Basically, I've had no difficulty playing PAL DC or Saturn games. PAL cart games are all demonic and bastardly as are PAL PS games.
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Post by BlazeHedgehod on Aug 3, 2006 20:26:12 GMT -5
I wonder if there's a trick like that for the PSone Gameshark I have.  |
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Post by Robert on Aug 3, 2006 20:27:37 GMT -5
most PAL games (from back then, at least) display at 50hz. American TVs are 60hz. It only makes sense. PAL standard refreshes at 50Hz, so the game runs at 50 frames per second. If it ran 60 internally, it'd have to drop visual frames to keep up, or else you'd get that wonderful "sheering" effect where the screen starts drawing a new frame in the middle of the old one. Anyway, as the rest said, country codes are your other problem. I never got that stupid disk swap to work. I just went ahead and put a modchip in.  |
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Post by Optimus Prime on Aug 3, 2006 20:30:28 GMT -5
No. However, there were numerous chip-cards that plug into the back of the systems that allow play of Japanese games. However, you DO need to rig up a spring to trick the console into thinking it's not open and use a swap disc trick.
Personally, I used both a boot disk and a chipcard and the chipcard works when the boot disk fails. Still, several swap disks come with specially made springs which don't pop out and break stuff, so for PS importing I say get both. If you can't find a chipcard, I can hook you up XD.
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Post by BlazeHedgehod on Aug 3, 2006 20:39:04 GMT -5
No. However, there were numerous chip-cards that plug into the back of the systems that allow play of Japanese games. However, you DO need to rig up a spring to trick the console into thinking it's not open and use a swap disc trick. Personally, I used both a boot disk and a chipcard and the chipcard works when the boot disk fails. Still, several swap disks come with specially made springs which don't pop out and break stuff, so for PS importing I say get both. If you can't find a chipcard, I can hook you up XD. Generally, I use a "swap trick" which is to say... I put the gameshark in, I give it a real disc to "verify", and then, as it's spinning (lid propped open with a toothpick), I pop the disc out as fast as possible and insert my bootleg. This reduces the amount of stress on the CD drive motor (as opposed to forcing it to stop on it's own), but it's probably not very good for the discs I use it with. (as when I flip them out, generally they land on the playstation or slide across the carpet) |
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Post by Optimus Prime on Aug 3, 2006 20:49:05 GMT -5
... Ouch. See, the chipcards do make the disc you're using to boot stop on its own, so one can enjoy a less stressful and damaging swap. No damned way I'd load King's Field via your method. Get a happy swap disc just for the springy thing, or if it's a One model they can come with something for them too, though I have no experience with Ones. I hate those damned things.
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Post by BlazeHedgehod on Aug 3, 2006 20:51:33 GMT -5
This is a Playstation from right around the time Dualshock landed.
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Post by Optimus Prime on Aug 3, 2006 21:28:27 GMT -5
Chippie cards work on most if not all of the old boxy angular PS units. Like I said, getting one of the specially made springs will be much easier on your discs and sanity. I got mine in PS-x-change 2. For whatever reason a local used shop near me has lots of chip cards. I got two myself.
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