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Post by ViiJay on Nov 1, 2005 19:47:04 GMT -5
IGN is good for video downloads of soon to be released games, but their game reviews are just sloppy otherwise. And Epon, IGN has yet to score a single Madden game less than a 9.0, since 2001.
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Post by Sz on Nov 1, 2005 20:54:04 GMT -5
Again, Epon, those features are hardly revolutionary or anything... and if you're talking about the stuff added while EA was still in direct competition with Take2/Visual Concepts... Uh, duh. I would hope so.
As for what made 2K4 better... did you ever play it? What the hell? I'm not talking about features, I'm talking about the gameplay that absolutely slaughtered Madden that year. The running game!
Edit: Additionally, I think you misunderstood my definitions of player creation, team creation, etc. I'm not talking about your ordinary generic customization and boring player creation that Madden and all the other games have had for the past 10 years... I'm talking about full customization. Which, granted, isn't really necessary when you already have 32 full teams. However, a Take2 football game without the NFL license would rely on this heavily...
If you don't think it can be done, how about this: I'm currently playing ESPN 2K5 with current NFL rosters. In franchise (legacy?) mode. No effort done ony my part, I just downloaded the stuff and got going. And Take2 didn't even provide the tools for that game, while it's rather a certainty they would for a new game.
...additionally, I would like to say:
This would indeed rock.
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Seph
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Post by Seph on Nov 1, 2005 23:59:19 GMT -5
Might I add that from just his first two replies to this topic Epon has lost all validity in anything he says from this point forward.
Hah, Final Fantasy LVII indeed.
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Post by Epon on Nov 2, 2005 0:55:42 GMT -5
Seph: Why, because I insulted a gaming genre (yes FF is a genre of its own now) and you don't like it? Tough. Sorry If I insulted any of the anime/FF fanbase out there, but I guess the other way around it's okay, right? Or was it because I voiced my opinion at a message board that gets pumped up over the latest MMORPG hacks or overused inside jokes? I don't understand the mindset that everyone, other than SZ and Jackel, are in. It's like I insulted your religion or something! God forbid someone bashes a game YOU like, but ya'll can bash anything else.
Moving on...
And the IGN comment wasn't about IGN specifically, it was a quip at people who read the video game news bashing or hailing everything and taking the media's word on it. So no, it's not about paying for service or whatnot, it's about people not establishing their own opinions.
Sz: Yes I did play the game. The running game in 2004 was better, but like I said before, Madden won me over the year before with other things. I'm not gonna go blow more money on a different game becuase players don't have total control over the running game. I dealt with it and whatev.
And let me clear something up, too. Don't take this entire ordeal personally, Sz cuz I didn't. I did overreact, but its an opinion argument. It's what happens. For anyone whos bitched me out because i quipped at Square/cartoon porn/your mom, sod off. I don't care.
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Post by Jolly Joes on Nov 2, 2005 1:11:12 GMT -5
For the record, I don't care for football, don't care about harddrives, not that interested in the FF franchise anymore, very picky on anime(the majority of it is just bleh) and the only time I use IGN is for video previews up some upcoming games.
What does this make me?
Also I guess this head coach game is nice for the football fans--I think. Though I can see Sz point that it would be better if this was implimented in the next major Madden.
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Post by Jet the Hawk on Nov 2, 2005 1:48:29 GMT -5
Seph: Why, because I insulted a gaming genre (yes FF is a genre of its own now) and you don't like it? Tough. Sorry If I insulted any of the anime/FF fanbase out there, but I guess the other way around it's okay, right? Or was it because I voiced my opinion at a message board that gets pumped up over the latest MMORPG hacks or overused inside jokes? I don't understand the mindset that everyone, other than SZ and Jackel, are in. It's like I insulted your religion or something! God forbid someone bashes a game YOU like, but ya'll can bash anything else. Moving on... And the IGN comment wasn't about IGN specifically, it was a quip at people who read the video game news bashing or hailing everything and taking the media's word on it. So no, it's not about paying for service or whatnot, it's about people not establishing their own opinions. Sz: Yes I did play the game. The running game in 2004 was better, but like I said before, Madden won me over the year before with other things. I'm not gonna go blow more money on a different game becuase players don't have total control over the running game. I dealt with it and whatev. And let me clear something up, too. Don't take this entire ordeal personally, Sz cuz I didn't. I did overreact, but its an opinion argument. It's what happens. For anyone whos bitched me out because i quipped at Square/cartoon porn/your mom, sod off. I don't care.
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Post by A Notebook on Nov 2, 2005 7:35:05 GMT -5
Coming from a guy who posted an incoherent rant about the fact that despite his apathy for Nintendo but hates the rampant bashing of them while he was having a very bad week,
Epon, did you really expect much interest into a game where the majority of the forum is probably not going to be interested in? From what I gather, there aren't too many sport games fans here, so of course this topic isn't going to be flooded with replies like the other topics.
[Strangely enough, the only sport game that I've managed to fall in love with so far is EA's SSX series, though that's although it's not terribly really realistic, at least with the first two games. SSX 3 is more realistic only that you can only ski on a snowy mountain, not in Hawaii. I keep hearing mixed reviews about On Tour though, although I do have to agree turning Kaori into an angry woman hasn't exactly helped with my impression.]
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Post by dead on Nov 2, 2005 8:15:19 GMT -5
Epon, don't be so defensive. It feels like you're....desperate.
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Post by Seph on Nov 2, 2005 10:34:07 GMT -5
Seph: Why, because I insulted a gaming genre (yes FF is a genre of its own now) and you don't like it? Tough. Sorry If I insulted any of the anime/FF fanbase out there, but I guess the other way around it's okay, right? Okay, let's get a few things straight. First and foremost, your entire point with Final Fantasy LVII is invalid primarily because I don't care about Final Fantasy, save for Tactics, which doesn't really fit the FF descriptor anyway. In fact, how many people posted in this topic that they don't care about FF, and you still use it as some kind of point? The second reason your point is blatantly incorrect is because I never insulted your cute football RTS. The only thing I stated was that because of the obvious hypocrisy you've displayed in this topic, you've lost all validity in my eyes. Two things: First, that's hellishly overexaggerated. Secondly, if you don't like the MoogleMB, get the hell out. We don't want you if you don't want us. See above for counter-religion sentiments. And here we come full circle. You went on a fucking rampage because Sz (who you now say you understand!) 'insulted' your game. And so of course what do you throw back at him? 'FF57 LOLZ' Really, you lost any and all credibility from this topic just because you've proven to be a raging hypocrite who is super-defensive of his silly genre. Honestly, you're no better than the FF or FPS fanboys, so get over yourself. EDIT: I had more time than I thought, so I made myself a bit more clear.
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Post by Neo on Nov 2, 2005 14:38:39 GMT -5
Yeah, I just seem to get this vibe that Epon hates us all because we don't like teh sports games but we like TEH WAPANIME FANTASY ONLINE RPG 2DMAXXXX, so he groups us into this little stereotype and flames it accordingly.
Seriously, Epon, I could do that too. Did you know all sports games suck, and all sports game players are stupid jocks with no taste in videogames? And all people that like to work on their cars are ricers that want side skirts an inch off the ground with neon lights under them and exhaust pipes that look like fucking cardboard toilet paper tubes sprayed with chrome! If you have this opinion of us and you really don't t like us in general, and you don't enjoy hearing our opinions, then why are you even.. y'know, here?
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Post by Epon on Nov 2, 2005 15:21:02 GMT -5
Atleast it's the first vibe you're getting since your hand.
No, that's completely untrue. It's just I find it rediculous that I post something here and it was automatically bashed. Yeah, true, one person said something. I shouldn't have flipped out. But I did, tough. Deal with it. I'm sorry I hurt all your guys interweb feelings and "OMG GENERALIZED U IN A GRUP IM A NAZI JUST LIKE BUSH"...
... OH HOT DAMN WAIT! Didn't Sanius say "Are you really expecting people to care about football game (year) on a forum that was started over an anime?" Hmm, maybe he said that because it's true? Maybe then me "grouping" and "stereotyping" you into that genre is... true? Like, is it bad to say that New Orleans was a poor, rundown area because... it's TRUE?! Oh no, not the truth. I'm sorry I popped your bliss bubbles.
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Post by Seph on Nov 2, 2005 15:29:55 GMT -5
Your post started out fine with that first paragraph. Then you degenerated into a stupid asshole again.
Hehe, bliss bubble. You keep getting progressively more hilarious every time you say something...
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Post by drak on Nov 2, 2005 15:56:06 GMT -5
Atleast it's the first vibe you're getting since your hand. No, that's completely untrue. It's just I find it rediculous that I post something here and it was automatically bashed. Yeah, true, one person said something. I shouldn't have flipped out. But I did, tough. Deal with it. I'm sorry I hurt all your guys interweb feelings and "OMG GENERALIZED U IN A GRUP IM A NAZI JUST LIKE BUSH"... ... OH HOT DAMN WAIT! Didn't Sanius say "Are you really expecting people to care about football game (year) on a forum that was started over an anime?" Hmm, maybe he said that because it's true? Maybe then me "grouping" and "stereotyping" you into that genre is... true? Like, is it bad to say that New Orleans was a poor, rundown area because... it's TRUE?! Oh no, not the truth. I'm sorry I popped your bliss bubbles. HOORAY DENSE As far as I can tell, nobody started bashing you until you started bashing everyone else. Sz's first post was about a game. It's his opinion. It's a completely valid thing to post. Then you come up with this "FINAL FANTASY 57!! HARD DRIVES!! MMORPG HAX!!" bullshit. It really just looks like an incredibly sad attempt at saying "HAY GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE LIKE, NERDS, BECAUSE YOU LIKE, UM, HARD DRIVES!! AND ARE NERDS AND YOU SUCK AND I'M BETTER BECAUSE OF THE GAMES I LIKE." It's not so much the stereotyping as the aura of complete arrogance that you give off with it, seriously. People have different opinions. This is, however, NOT a reason to bash them for things they ARE or MAY BE interested in. That's just childish.
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Post by BlazeHedgehod on Nov 2, 2005 16:07:13 GMT -5
Atleast it's the first vibe you're getting since your hand. No, that's completely untrue. It's just I find it rediculous that I post something here and it was automatically bashed. Yeah, true, one person said something. I shouldn't have flipped out. But I did, tough. Deal with it. I'm sorry I hurt all your guys interweb feelings and "OMG GENERALIZED U IN A GRUP IM A NAZI JUST LIKE BUSH"... ... OH HOT DAMN WAIT! Didn't Sanius say "Are you really expecting people to care about football game (year) on a forum that was started over an anime?" Hmm, maybe he said that because it's true? Maybe then me "grouping" and "stereotyping" you into that genre is... true? Like, is it bad to say that New Orleans was a poor, rundown area because... it's TRUE?! Oh no, not the truth. I'm sorry I popped your bliss bubbles. HOORAY DENSE As far as I can tell, nobody started bashing you until you started bashing everyone else. Sz's first post was about a game. It's his opinion. It's a completely valid thing to post. Then you come up with this "FINAL FANTASY 57!! HARD DRIVES!! MMORPG HAX!!" bullshit. It really just looks like an incredibly sad attempt at saying "HAY GUYS, YOU GUYS ARE LIKE, NERDS, BECAUSE YOU LIKE, UM, HARD DRIVES!! AND ARE NERDS AND YOU SUCK AND I'M BETTER BECAUSE OF THE GAMES I LIKE." It's not so much the stereotyping as the aura of complete arrogance that you give off with it, seriously. People have different opinions. This is, however, NOT a reason to bash them for things they ARE or MAY BE interested in. That's just childish. Which is kind of what I was implying here. But you worded it much more coherently and thoroughly than I did.
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Post by Epon on Nov 2, 2005 16:09:46 GMT -5
Go back to my first reply. Go and read it... okay?
"I'm sorry that I didnt post a thread about anime, Final Fantasy 57, or something you found on SlashDot."
That was the only thing offensive in there at all. If you read a few more posts down, you'd see it was in reference to the lack of responses, in which Sanius said "did you expect people to really reply to a sports thread?"
So I don't know why you guys are taking it so critically. That's what childish. It's a fucking statement about what people here like, granted, a wiseass remark. But I don't care, that's why I said it, to poke fun at that. If YOU guys can't deal with me stating the obvious, then yes, I did pop your "bliss bubble".
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Post by Epon on Nov 2, 2005 16:17:46 GMT -5
Blaze: I've always been a jerk. I actually completely forgot about that thread. And since I seem to have offended everyone now, even the lolikons out there, I'll apologize to them for bashing their fetishes. Oops! Let me apologize to fucking NAMBLA next because they too are people with feelings! I'm sorry if I don't fall into the same categories and I'd prefer to go out, meet a girl, and whatever happens that night happens instead of looking at Xenowhatever hentai. So tell me again, you're mad at me because I quipped at your likings? Or because I stereotyped a group of members at an anime/video game messageboard as.... anime/video game fans? Kinda hillarious.
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Post by Joshi on Nov 2, 2005 16:22:52 GMT -5
I think it has more to do with the fact that you seem to be making us out to somehow be inferior for liking what we like, and not what you like. Not saying that's what you mean, but that's the feeling I'm getting from all this. :E
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Post by drak on Nov 2, 2005 16:27:54 GMT -5
Indeed. Granted, it probably would have been easier to throw out a simple "shut up D:" originally and move on ignoring any further conflict, but... well... A LITTLE LATE NOW I GUESS MAYBE
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Post by Epon on Nov 2, 2005 16:44:23 GMT -5
Woah woah...wait. Let's look at what you both just said...
"I think it has more to do with the fact that you seem to be making us out to somehow be inferior for liking what we like, and not what you like."
Okay. Isn't that the basis for EVERY. ARGUMENT. EVER. Person A disagrees with person B. They fight about what opinion is better. Just like how some poeple feel Opera is inferior to FireFox and vice-versa. If you guys took offense to me defending my side, then grow the hell up. It's called a rebuttal. It's called defending your side. If you feel embarassed because of it or lower, then that's not my issue. I'm not here to make you feel good about yourself; that's your job. Unfortunatly, we're not in grade-school anymore where we have to share and be nice to others (well, atleast I think most of everyone here is out of grade school).
On another note, if my words are having extra letters tacked onto them, its because my idiot friend spilled some malt beverages on my keyboard last weekend, i havn't gotten around to cleaning out the keys yet. Oh, I better watch myself saying this now, you might htink I'm forcing drinking onto you guys now. Sheesh
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Post by Seph on Nov 2, 2005 16:46:07 GMT -5
Progressivly hilarious, and progressively stupid. I'm seriously questioning whether you have any more IQ than it takes to type something now.
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